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Friday, September 24, 2010

Ingen nåde for russerne!



This is the Norwegian translation of Six Russian Conscripts

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This post has been translated into other languages. This post has been translated into other languages. French version (en Français). Portuguese translation here (em Português). Spanish translation here (en Español). Korean version (한국). Dutch translation here (in het Nederlands).


Jeg legger ut denne videoen fordi den er relatert til den Nynazistiske halshoggingsvideoen som skapte en storm på internettet.

Et mye viktigere spørsmål er hvorfor russiske nynazister valgte å drepe den første mannen med (en riktignok mislykket) halshogging. Svaret ligger i denne videoen. Selv om de fleste amerikanere og nordmenn ikke vet noen ting om disse videoene, var de spredt rundt i Russland, trolig rundt den tiden de ble skutt.

En veldig berømt video, chechclear, ble filmet i 1996 på slutten av den første tsjetsjenske krigen.

Videoen ovenfor ble filmet 5. September, 1999, når en tsjetsjensk opprørsgruppe på 200 menn fra Tsjetsjenia stormet over grensen til Dagestan. Noen i denne gruppen, rundt 40 stykker, fant en landsby, Tuhchar, eller Tuhcharom, som ble voktet av 13 dårlig trente russiske vernepliktige. Ulike sider på nettet hevder at denne gruppen ble ledet av Salautdin Temirbulatov (bilde), men det ser ikke ut til å være tilfelle.

I stedet er Temirbulatov mannen som halshugget den ukjente russiske vernepliktige i det berømte chechclear-klippet.

Denne gruppen ble faktisk ledet av Emir Umar Karpinski, med tilknytning til Basajev og Khattab sine islamistiske geriljatakter.

I åpenbart undertall, klarte syv av de tretten å løpe unna og gjemme seg i landsbyen, men de andre seks ble tatt til fange.

Fem av de ble halshogd*; en sjette reiste seg og prøvde å løpe vekk, men han ble skutt og drept. En annen var en 17 år gammel gutt, og opprørerne tilbød ham det generøse valget mellom å konvertere til Islam eller bli skutt. Han nektet å konvertere og ble skutt.

Her er samtalen, oversatt fra en russisk og tsjetsjensk dialog, fra den delen av båndet der de forhandlet med offeret, Aleksey Lipatov, som tryglet for sitt liv, og deretter ble myrdet:
Den russiske fangen, en ung gutt, ligger på gresset...

Tsjetsjeneren med kniv: "Snu deg."

Gutten snur seg sidelengs...

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Legg deg ned!"

Tsjetsjeneren tar kniven ut og bøyer seg mot gutten...

Lipatov: "Du trenger ikke å stikke meg...Jeg skal fortelle deg alt ..."

Tsjetsjeneren med kniv: "Hva skal du fortelle meg?"

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Kom igjen, snakk..."

Lipatov: "Jeg skal fortelle deg hvor det ligger."

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Hvor er det plassert?"

Lipatov peker mot en bakke med et hus: "Der, i det huset."

Tsjetsjeneren med kniv: "Hva?"

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Hva er i det huset?"

Lipatov: "Våpen og ammunisjon."

Tsjetsjeneren med kniv: "Hvor? I det huset?" Peker.

Lipatov: "Ja der."

Tsjetsjeneren med kniv ser på kameraten sin.

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Han lyver..."

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Ligg på bakken."

Tsjetsjenske med kniv: "Hva mer kan du fortelle oss?"

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Hvor er våpnene?"

Lipatov: "Hva?"

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Våpnene og ammunisjonen."

Lipatov: "På toppen av fjellet."

Tsjetsjenske med kniv: "Hvor?"

Lipatov: "Der på toppen." Peker.

Tsjetsjenske med kniv: "Er du sikker?"

Lipatov: "Ja, ja."

AK-skudd avfyres...tsjetsjeneren med kniv trekker seg tilbake og ønsker ikke å stikke ham...synes synd på gutten:

"Hva vil du jeg skal gjøre?" På tjetjensk.

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Bare stikk ham."

Lipatov: "Der, det er rett der." Peker.

Tsjetsjenere roper: "La han være og kom tilbake!"

En haug av dem skriker på en gang. Pistolskudd avfyrt fra AK-47.

Tsjetsjenere fortsetter å rope: "La ham være i fred...kom tilbake etterpå." (De henviser til den andre gutten som løp.)

Tsjetsjeneren med kniven: "Snu deg."

Tsjetsjener: "Ta av deg beltet."

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Bare klipp ham."

Lipatov: "Det, det er rett der." Poeng.

Tsjetsjenere roper: "La ham alene, og komme tilbake!"

En haug av dem kjefte på en gang. Pistolskudd avfyrt fra AK-47.

Tsjetsjenere holde roping: "La ham være i fred...komme tilbake allerede." (De henviser til den andre gutten som kjørte.)

Tsjetsjenske med kniven: "Snu deg."

Tsjetsjenske: "Ta av deg beltet."

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Kom igjen, stikk han."

Lipatov: "Du må ikke."

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Bare stikk han nå."

Lipatov: "Du trenger ikke, vær så snill..."

Tsjetsjensk idiot slår han med beltet.

Tsjetsjener: "All right, kom igjen!"

Tsjetsjener med Adidas jakke: "Hendene bak!"

Lipatov: "Vær så snill, ikke."

Tsjetsjenske (Adidas): "Hendene bak!"

Tsjetsjenske (Adidas) slår Lipatov i ansiktet: "Jeg sa hendene bak!"

Lipatov blir slått med en AK-47.

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Fort, fort."

Lipatov: "Vær så snill, la oss snakke..."

Tsjetsjeneren med kameraet: "Hendene bak! Din jævel."

Tsjetsjener: "Drit i beltet."

Slår gutten med automat gevær.

Tsjetsjeneren bak kameraet: "Faen, bare stikk han!"

Lipatov: "Vær så snill, jeg vil ikke."

De slåss.

Lipatov skriker: "JEG VIL IKKE DØ, VÆR SÅ SNILL!"

Tsjetsjenere: "Stikk han."

Lipatov gråter.

Lipatov: "JEG VIL IKKE DØ, VÆR SÅ SNILL! DERE ER VELDIG GODE MENNESKER, VÆR SÅ SNILL!"

Kameramann: "Ja, vi er veldig, veldig gode mennesker...DE BESTE"

Tsjetsjener: "Få kniven."

Tsjetsjener slår gutten i hodet et par ganger.

Tsjetsjener med kniven: "Stopp med å slå han for faen."

Kameramann: "Du skal bo i 'Gravenes by'."

Lipatov: "MAMMA! MAMMA!"

Kameramann: "Torturer han."

Lipatov: "Jeg vil leve!"

Kameramann, sarkastisk: "Han vil leve!"

Lipatov skriker...3 mot 1, tsjetsjenerne angriper han.

Lipatov: "Kom igjen karer...Jeg vil bare leve."

Tsjetsjener: "STIKK HAN NÅ."

Lipatov: "La meg være!"

En kniv går gjennom halsen til Lipatov. Lipatov kneler mens han blir slått i hodet med en AK-47.

Tsjetsjener med kniv til fyren med AK-47: "Hva faen gjør du? Dra til helvete."

Tsjetsjenske med kniv: "Jeg skal gjøre dette selv!"

En tsjetsjener stikker Lipatov i halsen, så stikkes han i nakken... igjen og igjen og igjen...Lipatov er død.
Et par måneder senere, ble gruppen desimert i en russisk-tsjetsjensk operasjon. To spesialstyrker fant sted i operasjonen; den nylig oppløste tsjetsjenske Vostok Brigaden fra den tjetjenske regjeringen, og den russiske Spetznatz-Spesialstyrken. Videoen utgitt av tsjetsjenerne ble brukt som bevis mot dem som begikk forbrytelser for å spore dem opp. Noen sier de ble drept i et russisk bombeangrep.

Alle tsjetsjenere sett i denne videoen ble drept før eller siden, så alle du ser i denne videoen er døde nå.

Denne videoen er i fire eller fem deler, og dette er tydeligvis del fire eller fem. Denne videoen går ved ulike navn rundt på nettet, og er ofte funnet på russiske forum, men alle kommentarene er i russisk. Den kalles blant annet Dagestan, Dagestan massakerne, Henrettelsen av seks russiske vernepliktige i Dagestan, Opprørere dreper brutalt soldater i Øst-Europa, Tsjetsjenske monstre, etc.

Denne spesielle videoen, selvom den er filmet i 1999, ser kun ut til å ha gjort inntrykk siden Juli 2007.

Allikevel var disse videoene utgitt på nettet før, og sett av mange i den russiske offentligheten. Dette forsterket hatet mot tsjetsjenerne, spesielt på grunn av det faktum at disse gutta var unge vernepliktige. Tsjetsjenske apologeter hevder at russiske vernepliktige har gjort alle slags forferdelige ting mot tsjetsjenere, både mot soldater og sivile.

De sier også at det var bare én kommandør, og reflekterer ikke de andres synspunkter.

Det er nok sant, men ingenting av det unngår den konklusjon at disse krigene, som startet med å være ganske utkjempet, utvikler seg nå til ubeskrivelig brutalitet fra begge sider. Tsjetsjenske apologeter sier at dette er det som skjer med deg når du mister hele familien, eller i hvertfall noen medlemmer, frunnet det det russiske militæret.

Det er nok neppe en tsjetsjensk familie som ikke har hatt en slektning drept eller mishandlet av russerne. Den logiske konsekvensen er at en guttegjeng full av raseri, har ingenting å tape, kombinert med en økende tro på islam. Den forderdelige Gisseldramaet i Beslan var også et forventet utfall av denne hellige krigen.

Tsjetsjenerne har også sprengt noen passasjerfly fullt av sivile. Før gisseldramaet, iscenesatte noen tsjetsjenske kvinner i selvmordsvester, en gisselsituasjon i Moskva kino. Det endte med at russiske agenter stormet stedet og sprøyting bedøvelsesgass inn i teateret, og drepte flere gisler.

Tony Ward's Saken for Tsjetsjenia, fra New Left Review, er sterkt anbefalt, og oppsummerer min posisjon. Til tross for den forferdelige terrorismen (for å være ærlig; fra begge sider) bør den tsjetsjenske grunnen til nasjonal frigjøring fortsatt være støttet.

Dessverre har russerne drept de fleste av de mer moderate lederne, senest Aslan Maskhadov, som var faktisk en bra kar. Men selv Maskhadov hadde blitt mer millitær etterhvert som den forferdelige krigen fortsatte.

Russerne hadde aldri rett til å erobre Tsjetsjenia uansett, og det tok dem 60 år å erobre stedet - de startet rundt 1805 og beseiret til slutt tsjetsjenere rundt 1863. I løpet av denne perioden var Shamil den legendariske tsjetsjenske kommandanten. Selv da, akseptert aldri tjetsjenerne et russisk styre (som opprinnelig stort sett bare var nominelt) og det var gjentatte opprør, selv under den sovjetiske æraen.

Da nazistene invaderte Russland, gikk mange tsjetsjenere, sammen med de fleste andre i Kaukasus, over til nazistene, ikke på grunn av en kjærlighet til nazismen, men fordi Hitler lovet dem selvstendighet, men vi bør også merke oss at mange mennesker i Kaukasus kjempet for Sovjetunionen.

Om Hitler virkelig var villig til å gi dem uavhengighet er tvilsomt, akkurat som Hitler brukte det samme knepet med ukrainerne, og det var tydelig og klart at de skulle folkemyrdes i Generalplan Øst, og ikke gis uavhengighet i det hele tatt.

I 1944, reagerte Stalin mot dette med raseri, og deporterte hele etniske grupper i tog bort fra fronten i nærheten av Kaukasus. Forholdene på togene var forferdelige, med lite mat og vann tilgjengelig. Hvorvidt dette var tilsiktet eller ikke er ikke kjent, men mange tsjetsjenere - menn, kvinner og barn - døde på vei til Sibir.

Da tsjetsjenerne til slutt ble lovet å komme tilbake over et tiår senere fra arbeidsleirene (der de var de mest opprørske folkene av alle) fant de ut at mye av deres eiendom var blitt overtatt av deres kristne naboer.

Dette er en del av den morderiske fasaden ved gisseltakingen av den Nord-Ossetiske Beslan skole av tsjetsjenske og ingusjetiske terrorister. Christian Nord hadde tatt mye ingusjetiske eiendom i løpet av tiåret der de ble deportert sammen med tsjetsjenere. Minnene er store i denne delen av verden.

Selv om krigen har avtatt betraktelig med innføringen av en ny Moskva-regjeringen i Tsjetsjenia, fortsetter den å frese. Det er bare rundt 8.000 russiske soldater i Tsjetsjenia, sammenlignet med 60 000 så sent som i 2005. Det er trolig rundt 2000 geriljaer fortsatt rundt i fjellene.

De fleste tsjetsjenere er trolig fortsatt uavhengige. I de senere årene, har krigene spredt over hele Nord-Kaukasus til Dagestan, Ingusjetia, Nord-Ossetia, Kabardino-Balkaria og Karatsjajevo-Tsjerkessia. Det har også vært mange angrep i Sør-Russland like nord for Kaukasus.

Hva å gjøre med den nynazistiske halshogginga? Som jeg sa, vekket de halshuggervideoene et enormt nasjonalistisk raseri i et bredt spekter i det russiske samfunnet (Den russiske fredsbevegelse for å avslutte den andre tsjetsjenske krigen er veldig liten, upopulær og ofte forfulgt) og klart det styrte de ultranasjonalistiske til vanvidd.

Videoene og selve krigen styrte trolig hele den ultranasjonalistiske bevegelsen, og det ga dem slagkraft og horder av nye medlemmer. I budskapet til den russiske nynazistiske videoen, krevde gruppen at alle kaukasiske innfødte ble kastet ut av Kaukasus, og at Kaukasus da ble gjort uavhengige. De krevde også at alle folk i Kaukasus og asiatere ble kastet ut av Russland.

Å se hvor opphissede og gale russiske slaver ble av disse filmene av halshuggingen, er jeg sikker på at de russiske nynazistene i sin berømte video halshogget Shamil Odamanov, en muslim og en dagestaner (fra Kaukasus), som hevn for halshuggingen av russiske vernepliktige av den tsjetsjensk-muslimske kaukasiske geriljaen.

Ellers var jeg ikke klar over at nazistene likte halshugging. Det er en ganske muslimsk ting, og deres preferanse for det går helt tilbake til Mohammed (Det var hans favorittmåte å drepe folk på).

Det er trist at folk syns det er så spennende at tsjetsjenerne skjærer krigsfangers hoder av. For den døde personen spiller det ingen rolle hvordan han døde.

Russerne myrdet alle slags tsjetsjenere med kaldt blod - 12 år gamle gutter, slektninger av opprørerne osv. De gjorde utslettninger gjennom hele deler av landet, tok med seg hver mann kampalder og sendte dem til leirer der de ble torturert, ofte til døden. Det er massegraver over hele landet, og et anslag som er gjort viser at Russland har drept 20% av befolkningen.

Av denne grunn, sluttet mange unge tsjetsjenske menn seg til opprørerne fordi de skjønte at russerne skulle komme etter dem før eller senere uansett.

Dette er en interessant diskusjon av disse halshoggingsvideoene, sammenlignet med barneporno og spørsmål om hvorfor barneporno er ulovlig når så mange ser på det, men ting som dette ikke er ulovlig, med tanke på at brutale drap kanskje er enda verre enn barn som blir sex-misbrukt.

*I denne videoen, ser man tsjetsjenere som ler og roper "Allahu Akbar!" hele tiden. De skjærer langsomt over halvparten av halsen til soldatene, slik at ofrene forblir levende og lider en god stund.

Selv med halsen halvveis kuttet, beveger fortsatt noen seg, prøver å krype, kravler rundt på bakken, beveger hodet rundt, tørker øynene og lage rare lyder ut av hva som er igjen av deres vokale traktater. Ofrenes skriker, "Stopp! Slipp meg!" på russisk.

Saturday, November 29, 2008

Muslim Separatists Kill Vladikavkaz Mayor

Vladikavkaz is the capital of North Ossetia. A group called Kataib al-Khoul (Jama'at Kata'ib al-Hawl ) claimed responsibility on the Kavkaz website of the Chechen rebels. This is the name of the Ossetian Muslim guerrillas. Considering that Ossetia is majority Christian, I can't understand their agenda , which is an Islamic Republic in a place where the population is 70% Christian.

North Ossetia is the Russian republic in the North Caucasus where the Beslan Massacre occurred. There have been some bombings there lately, and there was a suicide bombing at a bus stop by a Muslim woman that killed 12 people.

This popular post of mine goes into the Beslan Massacre and some of the ethnic issues that seemed to drive it.

In short, there are conflicts between the Ossetians and the Ingush. The Ingush were expelled by Stalin in 1944, and 1/3 of them died. When they came back in the mid-1950's, Ossetians had taken much of their land. Also, North Ossetians for the most part back the genocidal war that Russia has waged on the Chechen people.

The war in the Caucasus is not over at all, and has actually been spreading. The situation in Ingushetia is now being described by experts as "full-scale civil war." Heavy fighting is still ongoing in Chechnya, and the situation in Dagestan is spinning out of control. There is also low level fighting in Nalchik, the capital of Kabardino-Balkaria.

It would be best if Chechnya and any other Muslim republics in the Caucasus were simply granted independence. Why Russia wishes to hang on to these problematic Muslims is beyond me.

The Russian imperialists and their backers regard this as a war between Western civilization and fundamentalist Islam. Nonsense. It is simply a separatist rebellion by some nations who wish to separate themselves from the Russian Empire into which they were forced after decades of war and have never really agreed to join.

Sunday, July 06, 2008

Chechen War is Over?

A Norwegian Russophile of unknown motivations came to the blog to comment on the post about the execution of six Russian conscripts. He repeated the usual pro-Russian propaganda about the crazy Chechen War.

I don't know about the Norwegians, but the truth is that almost all Greeks, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians will always line up with Russia. I'm not sure about Bulgarians. Also you are going to see this to some extent in Romania, especially in Moldova. It's not so much Pan-Slavism (which doesn't really exist in a rational form), but more Pan-Orthodoxism.

For instance, the Poles, Czechs and Ukrainians are all Slavs, but you don't necessarily see pan-Slavism with them. In the Poles, it is almost nonexistent. This is due to the Catholicism of the Poles. In the 20th Century, there were horrible wars waged with Polish Catholics on one side and Ukrainian Orthodox on the other. The Czechs are also Catholic.

The Ukrainians are Orthodox by and large, but they saw Russia as attacking them during the Communist era and thwarting their demands for independence. The Romanians are probably racially Slavic, but they speak a Latinate tongue. Further, they had bad experiences with Communism. The Bulgarians are Slavs and speak a Slavic tongue, but they also had a bad experience with Communism.

Armenians are Orthodox, but speak an unrelated tongue. Further, they resent Russia and are not racially Slavic (they are Armenids in standard old anthropological literature).

The common thread in Pan-Orthodoxism not just Orthodoxy but the endless war against Islam, in particular in the form of the Turks. These wars, the Ottomans against the Russian Czars, raged through much of the 1800's such that the rest of Europe sat the two parties down together to try to force them to work out their problems.

These wars were predicated on Russia seizing the role of protector of the Orthodox Christians under the Ottoman Empire. During this period, several horrible massacres of Orthodox Christians, in particular, Greeks, Assyrians and Armenians. Towards the end of the century, the Christians in the Balkans, led by the Orthodox Serbs, began rebelling.

It is essential to understand this history if one is to understand the Balkan Wars of the 1990's, the tumult in Kosova and Kosovo's declaration of independence, and also the Chechen War. The Slavs in this region have always been worried about expansionist Islam on the move, generally to the north into Slavic lands.

On the other side, Russia conquered Muslim lands in the south in the 1800's. Many of these Muslims have never been happy with Russian rule.

During the Balkan Wars, the Montenegrins, the Greeks, the Russians and the Macedonians lined up with the Serbs. The Russians continue to oppose Kosovar independence. Further, Greece has its own issues with Albanians in Greece. These nations are really the core of pan-Orthodoxism, which is associated with Pan-Slavism, but the Greeks are not Slavs. So it stands to reason that Greeks support Russia's genocidal war against the Chechens.

This commenter noted that since the death of Shamil Basayev a year ago in Ingushetia, the war has seriously petered out to the point now where the rebels are more or less defeated. He also said that the vast majority of Chechens support the pro-Russian puppet regime, and the guerrillas have only a tiny amount of support.

Just to show you how he is wrong, let us look at some recent events in Ingushetia, next to Chechnya and not even a part of Chechnya itself. The first two days cover Ingush events, and the rest covers the entire Caucasus.


July 5:

Malgobek, Ingushetia, 11 AM: Ingush rebels carried out attacks on Malgobek, and one policeman was seriously wounded.

Sredniye Achaluki, Ingushetia, 11 AM: Ingush rebels attacked a Russian convoy near Sredniye Achaluki. 1 soldier was killed and several were wounded.

Ingushetia, Evening: The Russian military carried out an attack on the Ingush rebels who carried out the 11 AM attack above in the woods near Sagopshi. 3 rebels were killed and several more were wounded.


July 4:

Ingushetia, night: Ingush rebels attacked the home of Musa Kozdoyev, a leader of the Ingush security forces and caused considerable damage.

Nazran, Ingushetia, night: Ingush rebels attacked the home of Bashir Aushev, vice-premier of the Ingush government, in the capital city of Nazran, and burned it to the ground.

Malgobek, Ingushetia, night: Ingush rebels used RPG's to attack the home of an advisor to Boris Ozdoyev, an Ingush government advisor, in Malgobek, and burned it to the ground.

July 3:

Kabardino-Balkaria, 11:30 AM: Caucasus rebels attacked security forces of a Russian oil company in the Chegem District, killing 1 and wounding 2 more. They escaped with the men's weapons.


July 2:

Nazran, Ingushetia, 12:30 AM : A grenade was thrown into the home of Esmurziyev, an associate of Ingush President Zyazikov. The attack was followed by a 15-minute gunbattle.

Surhohi, Ingushetia, 1 AM: Ingush rebels attacked the home of Nalgiyev, a close associate of Zyazikov, causing significant damage to the house.

Border of the Zugdidi District of Georgia and the Gali District of Abkhazia, 9 AM: A time bomb exploded at the Russian checkpoint at the border. To be honest, this could be Georgian forces attacking Russian troops.

Nalchik suburbs, Kabardino-Balkaria, 2:25 PM: Caucasus rebels attacked a vehicle with a local security force member on board with a bomb, killing him and wounding two civilians.

Malgobek, Ingushetia, 7 PM: Ingush rebels attacked a Russian vehicle, killing 2 and wounding 5.

Malgobek, Ingushetia: 7:15 PM: Ingush rebels attacked an Ingush police patrol, wounding two members.

Goity, Chechnya: Chechen government forces raided a village to search for a militant, but he escaped.


July 1:

Barnaul, Chechnya, 7 AM: Chechen rebels placed a bomb on a launchpad in a Russian missile base. It went off, killing one Russian soldier.

Nalchik suburbs, Kabardino-Balkaria: Security forces battled Caucasus rebels, killing 1 rebel.


June 29

Elistanzhi, Chechnya, early: Over 100 Chechen rebels entered the village of Elistanzhi. A convoy of Russians and Chechen forces coming to the village was attacked, and one URAL truck and UAZ van was destroyed. 2 bases of the Chechen forces and 1 base of Russian forces were attacked.


Furthermore, in January 2008, protests rocked Ingushetia. The protests were over the arrests, detentions and killings of suspected rebels and their supporters by the Ingush government. It doesn't sound to me like the Ingush people are very happy with this Ingush government (installed by Russia) or that the vast majority hate the rebels.

Clearly, the war has slowed way down, but it's not over by any means.

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Saturday, July 05, 2008

No Mercy for Russians!



If you are under 18, you may NOT watch this video! If you are a parent and are concerned about your kids viewing this post, please either supervise and/or restrict your children's Internet use or invest in a blocking program.

I am looking for translators to translate this post into Swedish, Danish, German, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Estonian, Lithuanian, Latvian, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian, Romanian, Greek, Turkish, Japanese, Mongolian and Bahasa Indonesia. Email me if you are interested.

This post has been translated into other languages. French version (en Français), Italian version (traduzione in italiano). Portuguese translation here (em Português). Spanish translation here (en Español). Korean version (한국). Dutch translation here (in het Nederlands). Norwegian version (på norsk ).

This is one of the sickest, most messed up videos I've ever seen. I watched it once all the way through and I've seen bits of it since, but I don't think I can watch it clear through again.

WARNING! This video has very gruesome content! Extreme viewer discretion is advised! If you think you are going to get upset or worse by this video, DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT watch it !

Bad reactions have been reported by those watching this video. So far, nausea (lasting up to an entire day), fear, rage, feeling disturbed and upset (in one case for months), inability to stop thinking about the video, flashbacks, facial flushing, shivering, chills, vomiting, nearly fainting, neck pains, crying, and depression (lasting up to a few days) have been reported. Psychiatric emergencies, lasing up to 24 hours, have occurred. One person said they will never be the same after watching this. Another was so traumatized by this video that they nearly had to go see a therapist.

Hospitalizations have occurred due to this video. When it was first shown on Dagestani TV, several people were admitted to the hospital with heart problems after watching the video. All were apparently released later.

If you think you are going to have a bad reaction, please reconsider whether you really want to watch this.


I am posting this video because it is related to the neo-Nazi beheading video that created such a storm on the Internets.

A much more important question is why the Russian neo-Nazis chose to execute the first man by (an admittedly botched) beheading. The answer lies in this video. Although most Americans know nothing of these videos, they were widely released in Russia, probably around the time they were shot.

One very famous video, chechclear, was shot in 1996 at the end of the first Chechen War.

The video above was shot on September 5, 1999, when a Chechen rebel group of 200 men raided from Chechnya across the border into Dagestan. A contingent of this group, numbering about 40, found a village, Tuhchar, or Tuhcharom, that was guarded by 13 poorly-trained Russian conscripts. Various sites on the Web claim that this group was led by named Salautdin Temirbulatov (photo), but that does not appear to be the case.

Instead, Temirbulatov is the man who beheaded the unknown Russian conscript in the famous chechclear clip.

This group was actually led by Emir Umar Karpinski, associated with the Basayev and Khattab factions.

Clearly outnumbered, seven of the 13 managed to run away and hid in the village, but another six were captured.

Five of them were beheaded*; a sixth got up and tried to run away but he was shot dead. The sixth one was a 17 year old, and the rebels offered him the charming choice of converting to Islam or being killed. He refused to convert and was then shot.

Here is the audio, translated from the Russian and Chechen dialogue, from the section of the tape dealing with one victim, Aleksey Lipatov, who pled for his life, and was then murdered:

Russian prisoner, just a kid, is lying on the grass....

Chechen with knife: "Turn around."

Kid moves a bit sideways...

Chechen off-camera: "LIE DOWN!"

Chechen takes the knife out and bends towards the kid...

Lipatov: "You don't have to cut me...I'll tell you everything..."

Chechen with knife: "What are you gonna tell me?"

Chechen off-camera: "Go ahead, talk..."

Lipatov: "I'll tell you where it's located."

Chechen off-camera: "Where is it located?"

Lipatov points towards a hill with houses: "There, in that house."

Chechen with knife: "What?"

Chechen off-camera: "What is in that house?"

Lipatov: "Weapons and ammo."

Chechen with knife: "Where? In that house?" Points.

Lipatov: "Yes from there."

Chechen with knife looks at his comrade.

Chechen off-camera: "He's lying..."

Chechen off-camera: "Lie on the ground."

Chechen with knife: "What else can you tell us?"

Chechen off-camera: "Where are the weapons?"

Lipatov: "What?"

Chechen off-camera: "The weapons and the ammo."

Lipatov: "On the top of the mountain."

Chechen with knife: "Where?"

Lipatov: "There on top." Points.

Chechen with knife: "Are you sure?"

Lipatov: "Yes, yes."

AK shots fired...Chechen with knife backs off and doesn't want to cut him...feels sorry for the kid:

"What do you want me to do?" in Chechen.

Chechen off-camera: "Just cut him."

Lipatov: "There, it's right there." Points.

Chechens yell: "Leave him alone and come back!"

A bunch of them yell at once. Gunshots fired from AK.

Chechens keep yelling: "Leave him alone...come back already." (They are referring to the other kid that ran.)

Chechen with the knife: "Turn around."

Chechen: "Take off your belt."

Chechens off-camera: "Come on, cut him up."

Lipatov: "You don't have to."

Chechen off-camera: "Just cut 'im up already."

Lipatov: "You don't have to, please..."

Chechen scum hits him with the belt.

Chechen: "All right, come on!"

Chechen with Adidas jacket: "Hands back!"

Lipatov: "Please don't."

Chechen (Adidas): "Hands back!"

Chechen (Adidas) hits Lipatov in the face: "I said hands back!!"

Lipatov gets hit with an AK.

Chechen off-camera: "Quickly, quickly."

Lipatov: "Please, let's talk..."

Chechen with camera: "HANDS BACK! You fuck."

Chechen: "Fuck the belt."

Rifle hits the kid.

Chechen off-camera: "Just fucking cut him already!"

Lipatov: "Please, I don't want to."

They wrestle.

Lipatov screams: "I DON'T WANT TO DIE! PLEASE!"

Chechens: "Cut him."

Lipatov cries.

Lipatov: "I DON'T WANT TO DIE, PLEASE!! You are very good people, please!"

Cameraman: "Yes, we are very, very good people...THE BEST."

Chechen: "Get the knife."

Chechen punches the kid in the head a few times.

Chechen with the knife: "Stop fucking hitting him."

Cameraman: "You're gonna live in Grave City."

Lipatov: "MOMMY! MOMMY!"

Cameraman: "Torture him."

Lipatov: "I WANT TO LIVE!"

Cameraman, sarcastically: "He wants to live!"

Lipatov screams...3 on 1, the Chechens attack him.

Lipatov: "Come on fellows...I just want to live."

Chechen: "CUT HIM NOW."

Lipatov: "Leave me alone!"

A Knife goes through Lipatov's throat. Lipatov kneels while getting butted in the head with an AK.

Chechen with knife to the guy with the AK: "What the fuck are you doing? Fuck off."

Chechen with knife: "I'll do this myself!"

A Chechen cuts Lipatov's neck, stabs him in the neck...over and over and over...Lipatov is dead.

A few months later, the group was decimated in a Russian-Chechen operation. Two Special Forces groups took place in the operation, the recently disbanded Chechen Vostok Brigades from the puppet Chechen government, and Russian Spetznatz Special Forces. The video released by the Chechens was used as evidence against those who committed the crime in order to track them down. Some say they were killed in Russian aerial bombings.

All of the Chechens seen in this video were killed sooner or later, so everyone you see in this video is dead.

This video is in four or five parts, and this is apparently part four or five. This video goes by various names around the Net, and it is usually found on a Russian forum, but all the commentary is in Russian. It goes by names like Dagestan, Dagestan Massacre, Execution of 6 Russian Conscripts in Dagestan, Rebels Brutally Execute Soldiers in Eastern Europe, Chechnian Beasts, etc.

This particular video, though shot in 1999, seems to have only made it onto the web in a significant way about July 2007, a year ago.

Anyway, these videos were released on the Net and widely viewed by the Russian public. This served to arouse even more rage against the Chechens, especially due to the fact that these guys were conscripts. Chechen apologists argue that Russian conscripts have done all sorts of terrible things to Chechens, both fighters and civilians.

They also say that this was just one commander and doesn't reflect the views of others.

That's probably true, but none of that avoids the conclusion that these wars, which started out being relatively fairly fought, are now descending into unspeakable brutality on both sides. Chechen apologists say that this is what happens to you when you lose your whole family, or at least some members, to the Russian military.

There's probably hardly a Chechen family that has not had a relative killed or brutalized by the Russians. The logical consequence is a bunch of guys with mountains of rage and nothing to lose, combined with an increasing emphasis on radical Islam. The horrible Beslan School Siege was also an expected outcome of this Hellish war.

The Chechens have also blown up some airliners full of civilians. Prior to the school siege, some Chechen women in suicide vests, all war widows and clearly distraught, staged a hostage crisis in a Moscow movie theater. It ended with Russian agents storming the place and spraying knockout gas into the theater, killing a number of hostages.

Tony Ward's The Case For Chechnya, from the New Left Review, is highly recommended and sums up my position. Despite the horrible descent into terrorism (to be honest, on both sides) the Chechen cause of national liberation should still be supported.

Sadly, the Russians have killed most of the more moderate leaders, most recently Aslan Maskhadov, who was actually a reasonable fellow. But even Maskhadov had been getting more militant as the horrific war dragged on.

The Russians never had a right to conquer Chechnya in the first place, and it took them about 60 years to conquer the place - they started around 1805 and finally defeated the Chechens around 1863. During this period, Shamil was the legendary Chechen commander. Even then, Chechens never accepted Russian rule (which was originally mostly just nominal) and there were repeated rebellions, even during the Soviet Era.

When the Nazis invaded Russia, many Chechens, along with most of the other people of the Caucasus, went over to the Nazis, not due to a love of Nazism, but because Hitler cynically promised them independence, although we should also note that many people of the Caucasus did fight for the USSR.

Whether Hitler was really going to give them independence is much in doubt, as Hitler used this same ruse with the Ukrainians, and they were clearly intended to be genocided in Generalplan Ost, not given independence at all.

In 1944, Stalin reacted to this with fury, deporting whole ethnic communities on trains away from the front near the Caucasus. Conditions on the trains were horrible, with little food or water available. Whether this was intentional or not is not known, but many Chechens - men, women and kids - died en route to Siberia.

When the Chechens were finally allowed to come back over a decade later from the labor camps (where they were reportedly the most rebellious spirits of them all) they found that much of their property had been taken over by their Christian neighbors.

This is part of the homicidal backdrop to the seizure of the North Ossetian Beslan School by Chechen and Ingush terrorists. Christian North Ossetians had seized much of the Ingush's property during the decade in which they were deported along with the Chechens. Memories are long in this part of the world.

Although the war has tapered off considerably with the installation of a new pro-Moscow government in Chechnya, it continues to sputter on. There are only about 8,000 Russian troops in Chechnya, down from 60,000 as late as 2005. There are probably about 2,000 guerrillas still running around in the mountains.

Most Chechens are probably still pro-independence. In recent years, fighting has spread across the whole of the North Caucasus to Dagestan, Ingushetia, North Ossetia, Kabardino-Balkaria and Karachay-Cherkessia. There have also been many attacks in Southern Russia just north of the Caucasus.

What does all this have to do with the neo-Nazi beheading? As I said, those beheading videos aroused immense nationalist rage in a wide spectrum of Russian society (The Russian peace movement to end the Second Chechen War is very small, unpopular and often persecuted) and clearly it drove the ultranationalists into a frenzy.

The videos and the war itself probably drove the whole ultranationalist movement, giving them fire and legions of new members. In the communiqué attached to the Russian neo-Nazi video, the group demanded that all Caucasian natives be thrown out of the Caucasus and that the Caucasus then be granted independence. They also demand that all people of the Caucasus and "Asians" be thrown out of Russia proper.

Seeing how whipped up and crazy Russian Slavs got over these videotaped beheadings, I'm sure that the Russian neo-Nazis in their famous video beheaded Shamil Odamanov, a Muslim and a Dagestani (from the Caucasus) as retaliation for the beheadings of Russian conscripts by Chechen Muslim Caucasian guerrillas.

Otherwise, I'm not aware that Nazis had much a thing for beheadings. It's pretty much a Muslim thing, and their preference for it goes all the way back to Mohammad (It was his favorite way to kill people).

It's kind of sad that people are so worked up at the Chechens for chopping POW's heads off. To the dead person, it really doesn't matter how he died.

The Russians regularly murdered all sorts of Chechens in cold blood - 12 year old boys, relatives of rebels, on and on. They did sweeps through whole parts of the country, rounded up every male of fighting age and sent them to camps where they were tortured, often to death. There are mass graves all over the country, and some estimates are that Russia has killed 20% of the population.

For this reason, many young Chechen males joined the rebels because they figured the Russians were going to come after them sooner or later anyway.

This is an interesting discussion of these beheading videos, comparing them to child porn and asking why child porn is illegal to so much as look at it, but this stuff is not, considering that brutal homicide is arguably worse than child sex abuse.

*In this video, the Chechens are laughing, carrying on and yelling "Allahu Akbar!" the whole time. They slowly slit the soldiers' throats halfway, so the victims remain alive and suffering for some time.

Even with their throats partway cut, some are still moving around, trying to crawl, flopping around on the ground, moving their heads around, wiping their eyes and making weird noises out of what's left of their vocal tracts. The victims' are screaming, "Stop! Let me go!" in Russian.